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Maureen
I am due to play Jaquie in Me and My Girl in a couple of weeks time and, as Jaquie is referred to as being a blonde, I have just had my blonde-ish hair coloured so that it's now REALLY blonde. Only it's just a bit TOO blonde for my liking. OK, actually, it's a real peroxide blonde and I look like a tart. Even more so than normal. Sigh.

So it set me thinking. How have you suffered for your art?
Martin
I never suffer for my art (not that I can remember) - but I can recount something simlar to you.

For a particular role one of our leads dyed her blonde hair brown using 2 week wash out dye. Unfortunatly her hair was porous and so this wash out dye stayed in for a year until it grew out......


Maybe you didn't need to hear that Maureen
Ryano
I played John Gabriel Utterson, Victorian gentleman (which is funny in itself for anyone who knows me) in Jekyll & Hyde and I elected to spurn the stick-ons and grew my very own mutton chops. Took me 4 months to grow. That was horrible, never again (well, until next time I suppose). Girlfriend wasn't exactly over the moon about them either. I kept having to lie about the exact length they were going to get to. So she's suffered for my art as well. (I was very careful with the spelling for that last sentence).
Lazy Bee
Oh dear. This might also go under the embarrassing pictures thread. More stuff with hair....
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Maureen
And on the subject of men and hair. Anyone done The King and I? Our King and Lun Tha were both quite hirsute. And both were good sports enough to have their chests waxed (in front of the whole cast!). And it was quite evidently rather painful...
Martin
I had to operate the sound desk for a "talent" showcase one week. One act stood out from the rest as being particularly poor, and every night I had to monitor all the radio mikes because the person in question was convinced that it was the mikes that made her sound flat. For 5 performances I had to listen to "I want a hero" screaching through my head phones while doing my best to improve the "sound (for the audience's benefit) must rate amongst the worst

Oh to add insult to injury the lady was on the large side but insisted that wearing a skin tight PVC outfit madeher look sexy especially when wiggling everything during the musical interlude

Please never again............
Martin
Another sound nightmare

When mixing large shows you tend to be in the audience with your desk so yo can hear what they can hear. My worst ever fromthis point of view was when there was a problem with the radio mike transmitters on stage. One by one all the green signal lights that told me the mics were working went off (and the mics died). At this point there is nothing you can do - you're surrounded by audience who are looking at you - the performers are trying to sing with out a mics and you're helpless. Not a good feeling.

The problem was traced someone backstage wanting more light for their dressing area and helpfully unplugging my power cord for the mics to plug in their light!!!

You can get a similar feeling when the band turn up all their amps (because they "can't hear" themselves) thus making themselves too loud even if you turn off thier feed from the sound desk - cue more hard stares from the audience
George
My goodness...

I just remembered... This is also an idea how to market your show...

A group near me, so shall remain namelss, were doing Sweet charity a few years ago....

Opening night was the Tuesday, and I was in rehearsals with an other group...

Ok... It's 10.30pm... The Show has just finished over in XXXX... By the time we got into the bar next to our rehearsals, which was 10.35 word has spread from that via TxT messages and frantic mobile phone calls...

That this was a "GOT TO SEE" show....

Not for the fact it was good...

Sadly for the wrong reasons...

The lap dancers in one of the scenes... hmmm thinking of a polite way of putting this..... The wrong side of 50 and "boob tubes" weren't holding in all that they should have...

My girlfriend who was playing in the pit (pic, flute, ten sax, alt sax, cnet - very proud of her) said the Band had bets on who would be the next to "pop out"...

I don't know about sufffering for your art, does suffering watching it count?

Now don't blag me for this one... It's the Director's fault...
The ladies were clearly not happy with what they were doing...
Martin
See!!! That just goes to illustrate what all those people front of house have to put up with seeing a bad show night after night - It's hell


Mind you when it's a great show then it's wonderful to be able to see theshow night after night. It's then (and only ever then) that you feel the slightest bit of sympathy for the performers not being able to see the show thenselves
rderriman
I've never done a talent show, but have had similar experiences to Martin in local village 'concerts'. Some acts have been super, but other really need a course in 'reality'. We usually have a good time though.

My biggest suffering though has been precocious brat's who have pushy parents who think they are better than they are. I've had such parents standing beside me at the sound and/or lighting desk giving me advice on how to make their little darling sound or look their best......... always without an ounce of technical experience and usually at the expense of another player. What drives these people? I'll admit to getting my own back during one school musical. We had the usual prima donna as lead girl who attended Saturday stage school and wasn't bad, but wasn't brilliant either. She was without doubt though the most skilled there and had a resonably powerful voice, but the acting wasn't up to much. The scene involved her appearing slowly out of darkness as she broke into song. I'd been 'advised' during the tech rehearsal by the father to use the moving light (the follow-spot) to make sure there was enough light on her. I'd refused on the grounds that I was in charge of lighting and I'd agreed the script with the director. Anyway, we had only one FS and I needed it elsewhere on stage during the same scene. I'd carefully marked the stage and set three lights onto the target, none of which were at anywhere near full power, so was quite happy I could light her ...... If she kneeled in the right place!

However, the teacher manning the followspot came to me about 20 mins before the first night opening to say that this dad, who happened to a school govenor, had told her to ignore my instructions and to use the FS in that scene as his daughter had told him that the lighting wasn't "good enough" during the dress!

Always one to do precisely as I'm asked, I told the operator to give it full light, sharp edged, no filter and straight on the face. I then quickly rigged two other spots on the scaff tower we were using as a FS platform to light the later part of the scene causing us to be about 5 mins late starting. Tut! Tut! At the appropriate cue, I left the original three lights off. There was this lasting image of a flat face with squinting eyes and (apparently) huge mouth, singing out of the darkness! The audience was in fits and it wasn't a comedy! The director went mad until I explained that I was doing as I was told! The excuse didn't wash much but the rest of the run ran to my script. I don't remember that dad ever talking to me again! I was so upset!!!!!!!!!!!

Robin
Martin
Not really a suffering more a get back

Having spent a good while during a particular show having my inadequacies as a sound person explained to over and over again to me by an obviously more experienced lead in the cast - I'd had enough The said person had a stong and often voiced opinion about all backstage people and their jobs).

We were using radio mics, which are fitted up to the cast in time for checking at the warm up and don't get switched off until the end of the show.

There's a function on the sound desk know as PFL and is used to monitor each channel (to see if it's working etc) without the sound coming out of the speakers. It was while doing this The great god of techies presented me with my opportunity

The lead in question was, shall we say having a liaison with another member of the cast, and being near the end of the run they were getting more adventurous. I happened to be checking their mics (along with all the others) and overheard this "liaison" becoming more err .. physical. So I simply recorded this (it would have been rude not too) and then during the inter show meal - the recording happen to be played back across the PA ...........

Their real partners weren't very impressed


Don't dis the techies - we'll get ya!
Martin
Another evil sound trick....

Had to fun the monitor desk of a large choir once.... Where you normally have fold back speakers on stage - this choir all wore in ear speakers The idea was certain people we fitted with mics (the lead bass, tenor alto etc) and this was fed back to the relevent sections i.e all the tenors had the lead tenor in their ear.

It had been a pretty fraught rehearsal things not going well on all fronts the TV lighting not helping for a cool atmosphere

After taking the brunt of a number of insults I'd had enough so I fed different lines to different people i.e the basses got the sorprano line etc. Well it took about 30 seconds to fall apart and was hilarious once the inital shocjk wore off every one broke down in laughter the tension disappeared and we had a great time their after.

The actual show was a huge sucess

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Martin
QUOTE (Maureen @ Feb 5 2003, 4:21 PM)
You truly are an evil man Martin!

I Thankyou *bows*

I'll take that as a compliment biggrin.gif

Which story in particular did you base that opinion on?

Shall I compile a book of 101 best tekkie get backs? I could send a free copy to your Ian laugh.gif laugh.gif
George
Of course....

For those actors who want to get back at the sound man...

In the middle of a sentence, start to mime, then carry on the next sentence louder...

Any sound man worth his salt will have quickly moves his fingers to the control and started turning it up.... wink.gif

But it's very unprofessional and you'd never catch me doing that...

Mind you... if you got a sound man worth his salt you'd not want to do this to him in the first place... wink.gif



Maureen
Martin - Ian would LOVE it! And following on from George's post, what ways can cast effectively get back at crew? Eh? Brave enough for that one?
George
Super glue on handles of boxed they have to carry on... *evil grin*

NO NO NO Never do that...

I like doing things like walking up behind the Stage Manager at a "get in" and then doing the following...

"tut"...

"tut"...

[Once his attention is mine...]

"Pity it's not straight..."

[Walk off and disappear... Return 20 minutes later to see him looking like crazy at the set...]
Martin
QUOTE (George @ Feb 5 2003, 4:29 PM)
Any sound man worth his salt will have quickly moves his fingers to the control and started turning it up.... wink.gif

Had that done to me once - didn't push the fader up but had a heart stopping moment.......

Immediatly put a 2 second delay on the actors voice through the fold back laugh.gif that worked!!! smile.gif

Got a bit of kit that not only delays but reverses the speech. Now why you want to use it I don't know - but does provide hours of amusement..... Maybe that's why the facilities is there
Eeyore
QUOTE (Martin @ Feb 5 2003, 4:42 PM)

Got a bit of kit that not only delays but reverses the speech.  Now why you want to use it I don't know

...it would be useful if you need someone to speak Russian...

I'm into double figures today - in fact I'm hard on your heels Martin...
Martin
How does an actor get back at a tekkie???

Changing the script moving the cue lines being the wrong side of the stage for a follow spot pick up - they all cause heart stopping moments

Ahh the best one to p*** a sound man off stand on a ground (float) mic or worse still walk up to a normal mic and blow into it to see if it's working. For best effect wait till the sound guy has head phones on.


But then what do you say to an actor whohas 2 black eyes?

Nothing - you've told them twice already!!!
Eeyore
Our ladies do a similar thing. Big flowy dresses. Doesn't matter where you set them, they'll always manage to turn round a clobber the mics. Sounds like Concorde taking off! smile.gif
DaveB
How does a luvvie get back at a tekkie (or should that be techie)? Add a few lines into a timed piece so that the actor ends up running for the train 20 seconds after the sound effect has left the platform!

Dave
Martin
Made an actor walk down a curved staircase wearing a crown while being followed by 2 moving lights (actually it was the actor following the light and it was what the dirctor requested)

It took 2 hours to program a 20 second or so movement - but the look of shear terror on the actors face each night as he had to move perfectly in time was bliss!!!


I did buy him a few beers afterwards though smile.gif



Martin
How to get back at a techie

Stand talking under a flying piece being lowered so that the techie has to hold the weight and wait for you to move (after finishing your ever so important conversation)

Whilst really wanting to let it drop and crush the muppet underneith splattering them nicely - but knowing that he'd have to clean the mess up after wards

That's real torture
Ryano
How to get back at a tekkie?

No need, the performance envy they all suffer from so badly is enough.
Martin
The real nice thing is that everyone's alway friends in the bar afterwards
Martin
No..we all love each other really biggrin.gif

I've the greatest respect for all those who go on stage I did it once - and enjoyed it - but couldn't do it again - too self conscious and don't have the talent. But at least I've done it so I can appreciate the actors point of view (like when I litter the wings with lights where you need a quick change etc..

From a techie point of view I prefer the safety of hiding behind my lighting desk - once it's programmed it's all nice and safe and repeatable. The nearest I get to live performing is live mixing on a sound desk - Your there in the audience and what ever you do is live and instant - much as I enjoy the challenge and enjoy that particular buzz... it still scares me stupid

No I have a healthy respect for all you performers and take my hat off - I'll just sit here in the dark and try to enhance your performance.

Although if you ever get the chance - go sit on a lighting or sound desk for a show and get a feel from that perspective - I'm sure you'll find it enlightening
Rod O'West
So they got me to do some acting for once - in a Shaw for the tourists at the Amsterdanse Schouwburg - thirty-odd performances - can't recall the name of my character, but it was a theatre critic, so you can imagine Shaw's feelings for it.

Now... (and this may be an example of how much I am prepared to suffer) ...I have been a Watford supporter all my life. Well, where I come from it was a choice between Watford or Luton, though some weaklings squawked for Arsenal or Spurs. My colours were the yellow, red and black of a true football fan.

Our director was an American of the type who wears bulldog clips on his nipples - leather jacket, erudite spectacles and a moustache he fiddled with constantly; know the type - short and plump with a braying giggle. Well... Watford won their way all the way to the Cup Final at Wembley, so we made plans to fly over and... our director called a rehearsal on the very afternoon of Cup Final day. His reply to my protest was, "Hey, Rard, it's only a soccerrrrrr match!!!!!!"

(Only a soccer match indeed!)

I had already shaved off my beard at his behest!!!
Jonboy
I can sympathise Rod.
I have been a lifelong Spurs supporter (as were my father, and his father before him. There are roads in Tottenham named after my ancestors (and a pub named after my great,great Grandmother!) - I'm serious!)
I moved up to Lancashire 2 years ago, and have become a fairly regular visitor to Turf Moor (Burnley FC)
This season I had to suffer the indignity of standaing on the Burnley terraces to see Spurs get beaten by Burnley in the Worthington Cup. Now THAT is suffering for your club!
While we're on the subject I should also like to point out that on the 2nd April Teddy Sherringham will become the oldest outfield player in the premiership when he turns 37. I will be 37 on the same day, so I guess I can say I'm still young enough to play in the Premiership!
HelenC
I agreed to be lighting op for a show a while back. I actually ended up doing most of the rigging and patching under some very good instructions and enjoyed that part of it very much. But the performances! My goodness. I've been going on stage for over 20 years and never had more than a mild flutter. Sitting in that lighting box I was absolutely petrified every single night!

My hats off to the chaps & chapesses who operate lights and sound.
Anne-Marie
Martin actually thinks that every inch of the stage (both on and off) is his to do with as he wants. It scares actors and terrifies directors!!!
George
YES!!!! At last something that terrifies Directors... Apart from me....



Martin
QUOTE (Anne-Marie @ Feb 6 2003, 11:30 PM)
Martin actually thinks that every inch of the stage (both on and off) is his to do with as he wants. It scares actors and terrifies directors!!!

Actulaay I think you'll it is my stage to do with as I wish biggrin.gif

Glad I manage to scare other people - Now they know what I have to deal with every morning when I look in the mirror laugh.gif
Anne-Marie
I managed a good moment once, a few years back.

I was directing "Little Shop of Horrors" and had cast two popular local actors as Audrey & Seymour (the leads, if you don't know it) in their first really big roles.

They'd been practicing the Kiss at their respective homes whilst their various 'other halves' were out and felt able to 'do it' in front of us at rehearsals. Of course, their efforts were greeted by catcalls and wolfwhistles from the rest of the cast, making them both go scarlett and giggly.

At this point, I sternly said "it doesn't matter what happens on the night, you don't stop kissing until the audience calms down and the music starts up again". I also ensured the bandleader knew not to start up until the audience was quiet.

Unfortunately I'd not banked on the rest of the cast priming all of their friends in the audience on the last night, meaning that the Kiss lasted over a minute, to screams, cheers and foot-stomping, and they wouldn't have heard the band if they'd started playing anyway!

Great fun - and I was sat between their respective 'other halves' who shouted and jeered as much as the next person.....what a fun time!
Singing Librarian
I would never do anything to a techie (they have far too much 'getting own back' power!), but on the original subject of this thread, I have indeed suffered for my art.

When I did 'Die Fledermaus', randomly transported to 1960s New York, I was in the chorus and was 'hippie pothead' (we all had individual characters, which was pleasant) and had to grow my hair and (for once) got to keep my on-again-off-again facial hair. In the end, they decided my hair wasn't long enough, so gave me a wig. They did like my beard, but it was the wrong colour, so the obvious solution was applied - greasepaint! I'm sure it will not surprise you to learn that greasepaint + facial hair = yuck. It felt horrible, it was very hard to remove, and one night when I sweated more than usual, it started to run... After the week's run, having been going to work with a beard that didn't match my hair due to stubborn grease-paint, I had to shave the lot off. It was just far too unpleasant.

David - resurrecting more old threads smile.gif
Maureen
[quote name='Singing Librarian' date='Nov 3 2005, 11:19 AM' post='69759']
I would never do anything to a techie (they have far too much 'getting own back' power!), but on the original subject of this thread, I have indeed suffered for my art.

When I did 'Die Fledermaus', randomly transported to 1960s New York, I was in the chorus and was 'hippie pothead' (we all had individual characters, which was pleasant) and had to grow my hair and (for once) got to keep my on-again-off-again facial hair. In the end, they decided my hair wasn't long enough, so gave me a wig. They did like my beard, but it was the wrong colour, so the obvious solution was applied - greasepaint! I'm sure it will not surprise you to learn that greasepaint + facial hair = yuck. It felt horrible, it was very hard to remove, and one night when I sweated more than usual, it started to run... After the week's run, having been going to work with a beard that didn't match my hair due to stubborn grease-paint, I had to shave the lot off. It was just far too unpleasant.

David - resurrecting more old threads smile.gif
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Greasepaint is most definitely NOT the obvious solution!! If ever you need to dye on stage again ( smile.gif ), post here and we'll sort you out!
Singing Librarian
I thought it was a bit odd at the time, but as one of the few non-professional people involved in the production, I just assumed it was the usual thing to do! unsure.gif

Hopefully I shall get away without having to dye in future. The chance to die, though, is a different matter. I've done that once. Great fun! smile.gif I shall be sure to ask here (well, maybe not on this thread...) if the issue arises again.

David
Queen of drama
well once i had to cut off a ear... kidding! this is fun, post ing in an old thread!

hey buck!
joe
[quote name='Queen of drama' date='Apr 13 2006, 11:33 PM' post='85779']
well once i had to cut off a ear... kidding1
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Could it not be better answered;-
'How has Art suffered because of me?'



'GREATLY'!
Queen of drama
yes I have. i lost a lot of friends that thought I was spending too much time at drama. they wanted me to quit, but i refused, and well they wernt too happy and they gave me one last waring , and if i didnt, our friedship was over. well i didnt and that was the end of our friend ship. any friend that doesnt want you to share your talents, isnot a friend at all. theere were allso a couple that thought I was cool. then they relized i was in drama, and told me I wasnt cool and after school actives were lame, and they wanted me to quit. lucky i never gave in to pure presser and i didnt quit. well that was the end of our " friend ship".
that will be a lesson to all u kitties!
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joe
Yes but has the suffering been of value?
If not is your art just then for arts sake or what?
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Roy
[quote name='Queen of drama' date='Apr 14 2006, 09:44 PM' post='85841']
any friend that doesn't want you to share your talents, isn't a friend at all.
lucky i never gave in to peer pressure and i didnt quit. well that was the end of our " friend ship".
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Well done QoD cool.gif ,
I'm sure you'll get plenty of Amdram friends to replace the ones you lost

Hmmm it looks like the qoutes code is not working in these old threads !!!! huh.gif unsure.gif blink.gif
Queen of drama
like I really feel better hearing about my internet friends. anyway, i have made more loyal friends, and some that share my interest. joe, yes, the suffering was worth it.
joe
G'donya QOD!
Jimbo_UK
Just found this one. Suffered many times or have inflicted.

We did Orpheus in The Underworld many years ago. It was done in 30's style, so the Devil had a hood as a bodygaurd. As he was going back to Hades, via the River Styx, they did a front of blacks walk from one side to the other.

The hood, was a big guy who just walked behind with golf clubs over his back and two suitcases.

Each night, he'd run into the wings, have the golf clubs thrust apon him, stand between the cases and walk. (always smoking in the green room to the last second). So on Saturday night, he did the same. Stood between the cases. Lifted and went red. He managed to stagger accross the stage and collapse at the other side.

Not sure what the fuss was about. It have taken four of use to put them there once we had filled the cases up with bricks.

He definatley suffered for his art that night, and if it was not for the fact that my father was standing next to me, his comments afterwards might have been accurate.

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Jim
Queen of drama
more more , AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pritch
I'm not entirely sure how I did this, but I managed to get my finger trapped between my ladders and our grid the other week. When you're several metres in the air, trying to get your weight off the ladder so that you can free your finger isn't easy.
wozmcwill
I have to do 8 press ups in our next show!!!! not a happy fat man!!!
Stage Fight Guy
Suffering? suffering? Ha!

I suffered Saturday night when I watched a non too good production of The Full Monty
21 of us travelled 65 miles there to see the show - most thought we'd had a wasted trip.
George
[quote name='Stage Fight Guy' date='Oct 16 2006, 02:24 PM' post='97993']
Suffering? suffering? Ha!

I suffered Saturday night when I watched The Full Monty at the Corn Exchange in King's Lynn.
Never have I suffered so much bad singing, no real set (lets climb through this invisible window!)
every scene lit with only 3 spotlights, absolutely NO choreography whatsoever, worst finale strip off ever, fumble, fumble, fumble, out of time with lights!
At that's only the bits I remember in the cold light of day!
What a waste of an evening

I am writing to demand my money back. I paid to be entertained and this came nowhere close...

21 of us travelled 65 miles there to see the show - 20 thought we'd had a wasted trip.
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Geeeese....... How the heck was it that bad?????? Sounds really bad...

I'm doing the same show next year, we're starting reherarsals 2 months
early to train the guys up on dancing and stripping...

How can they NOT be good at that, it's the whole point!!!

I take it this was a am-production not pro...
Buccaneer
[quote name='Stage Fight Guy' date='Oct 16 2006, 02:24 PM' post='97993']
21 of us travelled 65 miles there to see the show - 20 thought we'd had a wasted trip.
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I think we need to hear more about the "1" wink.gif laugh.gif
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