We are currently preparing for our pantomime which is on next month and I have got a number of sound effects (wav files) and a couple of tunes that I would like to download onto CD. I have a CD writer but for some reason the files will not download onto the CD. I am using NERO.
Could anyone point me in the right direction and possibly tell me where I am going wrong or how I could do it.
Thanks
Full Version: DOWNLOADING MIDI/SOUND FILES ONTO CD
hmmm it's possible.... not sure about the software though...
I use CD Maker Pro which you can create a Music CD or a Data Cd.
Which are you hoping to use?
If it's for sound effects then it's more than likely the Music CD.
Usually these are made from MP3 files, but with my software you can use WAV files also to create Music CDs...
Drag and drop into the area and away you go. Couldn't be more simple.
I find though Cds do sometimes have a "drag factor" in playing and are not as exact as some ways.
Md Discs are good.
Also playing direct from your computer can be spot on if you can set it up with the sound system.
I use CD Maker Pro which you can create a Music CD or a Data Cd.
Which are you hoping to use?
If it's for sound effects then it's more than likely the Music CD.
Usually these are made from MP3 files, but with my software you can use WAV files also to create Music CDs...
Drag and drop into the area and away you go. Couldn't be more simple.
I find though Cds do sometimes have a "drag factor" in playing and are not as exact as some ways.
Md Discs are good.
Also playing direct from your computer can be spot on if you can set it up with the sound system.
Midi files I certainly can't do onto CD.
You need to play these and record as WAV files.
You need to play these and record as WAV files.
Bunbury. You should be able to do all this in Nero. (Super tool this George, beats CD Maker hands down especialy on VCD & SVCD! Haven't tried DVD as I haven't got a burner yet! 
) You need Nero 5 or above really.
In Nero Wave Editor you can import I thing almost any type of music file and do whatever you want with it. Then you simply write the CD? You should find full instructions in Nero help but it really is dead simple.
Make sure also you have good media. It's sometime better to write it first to -RW and check it. Then use Nero to copy it to -R once you are happy with it or simply as a backup.
Robin
) You need Nero 5 or above really. In Nero Wave Editor you can import I thing almost any type of music file and do whatever you want with it. Then you simply write the CD? You should find full instructions in Nero help but it really is dead simple.
Make sure also you have good media. It's sometime better to write it first to -RW and check it. Then use Nero to copy it to -R once you are happy with it or simply as a backup.
Robin
Midi files are not a conventional audio format, so you can't use them directly in the same way that you can use a WAV file. (But do not despair, you can use them...)
Brief technical explanation (you don't need to know this, but I will tell you anyway):-
Most audio formats sample the sound that you hear and store it in a digital format - that's what an audio CD is. Some of them compress the format (MP3), some leave it uncompressed (WAV). Midi is different. It doesn't sample sound. Instead it has a series of instructions which tell a midi device to play a particular note for a particular length of time at a particular volume using a particular instrument. Converting that instruction to sound is the business of your midi player, so the midi file doesn't have to know anything about sound quality and can store just the control information in a very small space.
An audio CD playback system will not recognise a midi file (because it is not a midi instrument and will not recognise the midi control instructions).
In order to convert your midi files into an audio format which you can play back from a CD player, you will need to play the midi files and record them as wave files.
I have a utility which came with my Creative sound card which is called Creative Recorder. (Many sound cards will have something similar, and as a worst case you can achieve the same thing with a few external wires!) Creative Recorder allows you to select the recording source - sources include microphone, CD, wave files and, importantly in this context "What you hear", which turns the output of the computer's sound card into a WAV file. Set the recorder to "What you hear", click on the record button, then play your midi file, and the computer will record the output of the sound card as a wav file.
Using Nero, you choose "Create a New CD", select the format "Audio CD", drag all your .wav files into the CD playlist and press "Burn". WAV files are automatically converted to CDA (CDA is just the audio CD name for a WAV file!)
IMPORTANT POINT: if you are using an audio CD player for playback (which you will be), use a CD-R not a CD-RW for your recording. Most (particularly older) CD players do not recognise CD-RW and consequently will not play back your CD at all!
Good luck!
Brief technical explanation (you don't need to know this, but I will tell you anyway):-
Most audio formats sample the sound that you hear and store it in a digital format - that's what an audio CD is. Some of them compress the format (MP3), some leave it uncompressed (WAV). Midi is different. It doesn't sample sound. Instead it has a series of instructions which tell a midi device to play a particular note for a particular length of time at a particular volume using a particular instrument. Converting that instruction to sound is the business of your midi player, so the midi file doesn't have to know anything about sound quality and can store just the control information in a very small space.
An audio CD playback system will not recognise a midi file (because it is not a midi instrument and will not recognise the midi control instructions).
In order to convert your midi files into an audio format which you can play back from a CD player, you will need to play the midi files and record them as wave files.
I have a utility which came with my Creative sound card which is called Creative Recorder. (Many sound cards will have something similar, and as a worst case you can achieve the same thing with a few external wires!) Creative Recorder allows you to select the recording source - sources include microphone, CD, wave files and, importantly in this context "What you hear", which turns the output of the computer's sound card into a WAV file. Set the recorder to "What you hear", click on the record button, then play your midi file, and the computer will record the output of the sound card as a wav file.
Using Nero, you choose "Create a New CD", select the format "Audio CD", drag all your .wav files into the CD playlist and press "Burn". WAV files are automatically converted to CDA (CDA is just the audio CD name for a WAV file!)
IMPORTANT POINT: if you are using an audio CD player for playback (which you will be), use a CD-R not a CD-RW for your recording. Most (particularly older) CD players do not recognise CD-RW and consequently will not play back your CD at all!
Good luck!
Thanks for clarifying things Lazy Bee. All my CD players play -RW so I've not come across that problem.
You can also do the recording in Nero Wave Editor. Simply select the midi file in whatever media player you have, hit record in Nero WE and play in your player and record it. When complete, do a 'save as' and there you have it. It's then easy to crop, copy append etc all within Nero.
Robin
You can also do the recording in Nero Wave Editor. Simply select the midi file in whatever media player you have, hit record in Nero WE and play in your player and record it. When complete, do a 'save as' and there you have it. It's then easy to crop, copy append etc all within Nero.
Robin
If you are having any problems, it could be the operating sytem of your machine that is not helping!
Some versions of Nero do not like burning music in XP, I dont know too much about it but I do know you have to upgrade.
I think 5.5 is a good version.
Some versions of Nero do not like burning music in XP, I dont know too much about it but I do know you have to upgrade.
I think 5.5 is a good version.
I use nero 5.5 under xp with no problems burning wav files, had the machine for nearly a year and had not known about wav editor. thanks for the info I have located it. It will save me strugling with the Yamaha TWE which doesnt like xp.
Thanks for all the information on this. I will have a try at converting the MIDI file. The trouble I am having though is actually dragging and dropping the files into the 'playlist'. It comes up 'NERO cannot read this file'. Any ideas?
Why of why did I have the bright idea of putting this stuff onto CD?!!! what was I thinking?! hehe
Why of why did I have the bright idea of putting this stuff onto CD?!!! what was I thinking?! hehe
While we're on the subject, anyone know why Nero does this REALLY annoying thing:
When selecting and dragging files accross to the compilation the scroll bar on all my files keeps resetting back to the top, so I keep having to scroll back down to where I was.
As I have over 400 audio and video files this is a real pain!
Where can I get more designs for CD covers for Nero? The ones on there are so boring!
I have no probs running Nero with XP (apart from the above!) and do VCD, mp3, wav, etc,etc,etc...
When selecting and dragging files accross to the compilation the scroll bar on all my files keeps resetting back to the top, so I keep having to scroll back down to where I was.
As I have over 400 audio and video files this is a real pain!
Where can I get more designs for CD covers for Nero? The ones on there are so boring!
I have no probs running Nero with XP (apart from the above!) and do VCD, mp3, wav, etc,etc,etc...
You can design your own templates for use with Nero?
I was only mentioning that you may have problems with Nero because I know I did with Nero 5 until I upgraded to Nero 5.5
Have fun!
I was only mentioning that you may have problems with Nero because I know I did with Nero 5 until I upgraded to Nero 5.5
Have fun!
| QUOTE (BunburyPlayers @ Jan 30 2003, 1:55 PM) |
| The trouble I am having though is actually dragging and dropping the files into the 'playlist'. It comes up 'NERO cannot read this file'. Any ideas? |
You might get this message if you try to put a "non-audio" file onto an audio CD compilation - so if you tried to store a mixture of .WAV files and .MID files onto an audio CD.
[Sorry, I'm not in a position to test this theory right now, so you'll have to make do with a guess! until someone else comes up with a definitive answer.]
Okay, now I've checked it. If I try to create an Audio CD in Nero, and I drag and drop a Midi file, I get a message "The Audiofile is not a recognized [sic]format"
That means that Nero is unable to convert it directly into a .CDA file. So, convert your midi file first, as previously described - particularly by Robin, since we can be fairly sure that you have the Nero Wave Editor and can use it to record your midi file [something I'd never explored, as I use other tools].
Nearly there, I think!
That means that Nero is unable to convert it directly into a .CDA file. So, convert your midi file first, as previously described - particularly by Robin, since we can be fairly sure that you have the Nero Wave Editor and can use it to record your midi file [something I'd never explored, as I use other tools].
Nearly there, I think!
Again, thanks for all the info. This is far too taxing for me! I have now arranged to get a laptop pc for the show and run the sound effects and the required music straight from there! hey presto - problem solved! hehe. Oh what fun!
Thanks though for all your suggestions. I'm sure I'll be posting on here again sometime in the very near future!!
Darren.
Thanks though for all your suggestions. I'm sure I'll be posting on here again sometime in the very near future!!
Darren.
Darren,
Make sure you test the set-up well before the show!
I have run from a laptop on a couple of occasions, and it will work well.
It is highly desirable that you have your files on the hard disk - if you have to rely on files on a CD played through a laptop, then there can be a delay of a couple of seconds between pressing "play" and hearing a sound.
If you have small files - midi files are very small - and a playlist system (the "Virtual Jukebox" utility, which comes bundled with Cakewalk, for example), then the files will be held in memory and there will be absolutely no delay.
The main problem I had was, I hope, specific to my laptop - the audio system picked up an enormous mains hum from the laptop power supply when it warmed up. (I had to run on battery power during the performance, then charge the battery in the interval.)
Good luck!
Make sure you test the set-up well before the show!
I have run from a laptop on a couple of occasions, and it will work well.
It is highly desirable that you have your files on the hard disk - if you have to rely on files on a CD played through a laptop, then there can be a delay of a couple of seconds between pressing "play" and hearing a sound.
If you have small files - midi files are very small - and a playlist system (the "Virtual Jukebox" utility, which comes bundled with Cakewalk, for example), then the files will be held in memory and there will be absolutely no delay.
The main problem I had was, I hope, specific to my laptop - the audio system picked up an enormous mains hum from the laptop power supply when it warmed up. (I had to run on battery power during the performance, then charge the battery in the interval.)
Good luck!
Thanks Lazy Bee for the added info. It will certainly be interesting trying! I will write a full report after the show to tell you if it was worth it! hehe
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